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ten years. in rand paul's case four or five years. >> so is, a, antithey cal to what they need to be concerned about. in fact, anytime we've ever achieved a sustainable budget packet that's brought the debt down as a share of the economy, it's economic growth has been a key component. all of that said, there are pressures from health care costs in the long term, and we do have to deal with them, but interestingly, even there, there's some hope, because the dragon -- that part of the dragon is actually shrinken a bit. the congressional budget office has pulled down their long-term forecast for the growth of medicare and medicaid by half a trillion over the next ten years. it doesn't mean we're out of the woods, but some of the cost savings issues that will be so important to solving the real debt crisis are actually showing some signs of life. >> would you like to see less fantasy and more fact? >> and one fact i would like to see people focused on is the federal government has run a deficit in 46 of the last 50 years. so. what we need over the long term is a sustain away budget
'd be shutting down the government. >> you're shutting down the government so it's very sinister and very cal qulative and also for the american people, this is why we're disenchanted with government. it's broken and it doesn't work and when we're having a public discourse about how to get guns under control and how to get common sense gun safety into our lives. for them to be able to do this and this shows us that the process is broken and this is why people feel disconnected and apathetic to the processes related to legislation because it seems so unfair and so disconnected from what we need right now that it just -- it just throws people sort of out of the process and out of the game. >> but julian, we are talking about the first gun regulations to pass since those 20 infants were shot to pieces by military weapons and this is what we get? writers in a continuing resolution bill that prevents gun dealers from keeping proper inventory and the axe tf prevented from drawing any aims from firearms that would help us understand gun crime. that's what we get? >> this is the ultimate insult to th
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